Mark:
When people look at the business Renee and I have built today—our retreats, our mastermind, and a thriving community of soulful leaders—they often assume we started with a clear brand and polished message.
We didn’t.
What we have now is the result of years of evolving, of bumping into the edges of what didn’t feel like us, until we could finally recognize what did.
It all started the night we celebrated the launch of The Human Experience. After 18 years of dreaming, writing, and rewriting, we hosted a party with over 70 friends at a cozy Orlando café.
It was a powerful moment. But the very next day, Renee asked me a question I hadn’t prepared for: “Now that the book is published… what do you want to do next?”
I didn’t know.
She floated the idea of life coaching. I wasn’t convinced. Back then, I thought coaching was glorified advice-giving for people with a lot of time and money. But I was curious.
So, we started researching the industry, and while the statistics didn’t inspire much confidence, Renee’s belief in me did.
That’s when we began the deeper work: Not just building a business, but discovering what it was meant to be.
Renee:
That moment was one I’ll never forget. Mark had finally finished his book after nearly two decades. We were celebrating… and I knew he needed time to soak it all in.
But I also knew something else. This was a new beginning, and it needed direction. So I gently asked, “Now what?”
I wasn’t trying to rush him. I just felt the space opening up and knew we needed to start dreaming again.
When I suggested life coaching, it wasn’t because I knew exactly what that meant. I didn’t. But I had watched Mark for years. I knew how people lit up around him, how he helped them see the truth of who they were. I could see what he couldn’t yet see in himself.
When we discovered the average life coach made less than $20,000/year, he was ready to shut it down. But I just looked at him and said: “That’s what the average coach makes. You’ve never been average.”
Sometimes it just takes someone close to remind you who you are.
Mark:
I enrolled in a coaching certification program, and I hit my first internal wall.
My coach asked, “What’s your niche?” I had no idea what that even meant. I told him, “I want to be a spiritual coach.”
He laughed. Not unkindly, but it stung.
He said, “You’ll never make money as a spiritual coach. Pick Health, Wealth, or Love and sneak in the spirituality like medicine in dog food.”
And for a while… I believed him.
I started calling myself a business coach. I focused on joint ventures and helping holistic practitioners with sales and marketing. And while it worked, I always felt like I was wearing someone else’s jacket—too tight in some places, awkward in others.
We were serving. We were making money. But I wasn’t bringing all of me to the table.
Renee:
From my side of things, that was a really confusing season.
Mark was showing up fully… but not entirely. He was helping people, but I could feel that something wasn’t landing for him on a soul level.
He was trying to follow the “right path,” the proven strategies. But we were still trying to figure out what our path really looked like.
I was behind the scenes during those years—juggling twins, building our systems, learning tools and tech, doing whatever needed to be done. But I also kept asking: “Is this it?”
Something was missing. We both knew it.
Mark:
Then came the call that changed everything.
It was 2018. I attended the Women’s Prosperity Network Unconference in Orlando when my mentor, Alan Davidson, called me from Massachusetts.
He said, “Mark, I just got a download for you.”
“You are the Soul Connector,” he told me. “You connect people to who they are at the soul level, to their soul purpose, and their soul tribe—clients, collaborators, and co-creators.”
That moment cracked something open in me.
I realized I wasn’t here to sneak in the spiritual work. I was here to lead with it.
Renee:
From the moment we met Alan saw something in me, too.
I ended up running the backend of a 3-day virtual event for him—The Evolutionary Mystic Experience.
It was intricate. High-touch. Honestly, kind of chaotic. But I was in my element.
Alan kept calling it out: how I brought structure to big energy, how I made complex things simple, how I could support deep transformational work without being the one in the spotlight.
That’s when Divine Order Management was born.
It wasn’t flashy. But it was me. And it was the first time I started to realize I wasn’t just Mark’s support—I had my own lane, my own voice, and my own genius.
Alan saw it. And slowly, I started to see it too.
Mark:
That season marked a huge turning point—not just for our individual roles but our shared mission.
We stopped asking, “What’s the proven path?”And started asking, “What’s the aligned path?”
We didn’t throw out the strategy. We just let soul lead the strategy.
Renee:
From that place, everything began to shift.
Our community started to grow.
Our events started to deepen.
And the thing we heard over and over again from the people we worked with was:
“This feels like family.”
That wasn’t by accident. That’s what we were always trying to create.
Not just a business. Not just success. But a home.
For us. For our mission. For the people we’re here to serve.
Mark and Renee:
We didn’t find our voice all at once.
We found it step by step, soul by soul, story by story.
And now we know, the greatest success isn’t found in chasing someone else’s version of impact, it’s found in becoming more of yourself…And building something that reflects it.
That’s how you build a business that truly feels like home.